Are online dating sites a waste of time?

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No one tells young girls to do what they want with their bodies because they know that at some point young girls are going to want to have sex. Zip codes show on match. Maybe his divorce is almost final and he wants you to fill the empty spaces until he feels whole again. I'd say that somewhere over 60% of messages I've sent led to a first date, and I've had plenty of perfectly normal girls message me first.

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Are Dating Sites a Waste of Time?

Man goes on dating site. Man assumes women have it easy because they get a ton of attention. Man poses as woman on dating site to prove his point. Man barely lasts two hours as a woman because the responses from his fellow men are so toxic. Men scramble to approach women like rats chewing on a meaty chicken bone, and then wonder why women are so turned off by them. Hell, I just gave a TEDx talk about this very thing. Men scramble to approach women like rats chewing on a meaty chicken bone, and then wonder why women are so turned off by them. I figured I would get some weird messages here and there, but what I got was an onslaught of people who were, within minutes of saying hello, saying things that made me as a dude who spends most of his time on 4chan uneasy. I ended up deleting my profile at the end of 2 hours and kind of went about the rest of my night with a very bad taste in my mouth. Welcome to Understanding the Opposite Sex 101, dude. It should be a required experience for men — just as approaching men and getting rejected dozens of times should be a required experience for women. Ladies, have you ever had a similar experience to this woman? Guys, were you aware of how bad women have it? Pictures can be used to deliver viruses and other forums of malware. In my locale, a quick browse will turn up dozens, if not scores, of blatantly bogus profiles. The real ones are fairly easy to spot in comparison as either I recognize the people in the photographs, or else I recognize the picture background as being situated in this area. The scammers at least TRY to make what they put up look presentable. The legitimate ones almost universally feature poorly taken pictures of people who would have MUCH better luck at the nearest dive bar or neighborhood drunkfest where no one present is in any shape to get behind the wheel. They say nothing about themselves, and many times when they do post a few characters in an attempt to do so, not saying anything at all would have been the wiser choice. Women are probably given the sex and other odes online all the time. And men are being contacted by bots and scammers. And the thing is maybe eventually he will find someone online who is real…and will not believe it. However, the sleazy ones reveal themselves quickly. If anyone outright asked me a question about sex: no response. If anyone feigns genuine interest and randomly sends election shots text : no response. Or, write something very conversational, they tend to be more gentlemanly. Putting my own profile up, which is 100% genuine and as well executed as any that can be found on the Internet, has taught me just how deafening silence can be! It is disheartening and overwhelming at times. I shudder even thinking about it. Fortunately, I have a nice right cross, and not afraid to use it if someone purposely touches me inappropriately or purposely rubs up against me. Sometime accidents happen when in crowded spaces and people accidently rub up against or grab things to stop themselves from falling. I am not referring to those accidental situations. Having said that, I have continued to date. I am a 44 year old woman who put I was looking for a long-term relationship, not a hookup. At first, I thought the requests from the 21 year old boys were cute, and I could ignore them. What sent me off the deep end and made me feel dirty was the request I got from an age appropriate man who told me he was married at least he was honest about that and was looking to meet during the day and during the work week for sex. I am getting propositioned to meet a married man during the week for sex and nothing else. Just what I wanted. In my opinion, he should either try to work things out with his wife or get a divorce, not be trolling on internet sites looking to cheat on his wife. I felt so dirty after this request that I deleted my profile. Most of them lie about it at first and just say they want a discreet relationship. When asked why they give the BS answer that they are private people. Now I just cut to the chase and say I know they are married. Then they give me the sob story. Then I just tell them they should be off the site and go work things out. I give them a choice. Get rid of your profile in 24 hours or I am reporting to you to the site! Since I already have their admission in writing that they are married! They stay on the site and move on to the next person. I also believe that the sites need to get better at screening. And when someone is reported for being married they are PERMENENTLY blocked until they can prove they are single. This also goes for scammed. Starting at about 11pm and going on until the wee hours of the morning, one man sent me a string of e-mails, winks, games, etc. The first couple were just a series spaced about an hour apart. So I woke up to this string of increasingly beligarant e-mails. I forwarded them to match. A month later I saw that he was still on the site. His e-mails were a gross violation of their policies. I think it was grounds to be kicked off. Not for him writing to me in that manner, but for the fact that match allowed him to stay after that. Guess all they care about his getting paying members. About 3 years prior, she had another secretive quasi-relationship. I ignore them, if you report them and are on there long enough you will see them again! Just tired, tired, tired of on-line dating. The slugs are just looking for hookers. Which means there are hookers on those sites — or at least women that do send icky photos after two minutes. But he wouldnt use his video chat. They may be able to do phishing scams on you if they do, but your actual number is more a gateway than anything else. However, if you can give out evidence to the contrary, I am willing to listen. The way I have dealt with the scammers is just cut to the chase: ask for a Skype or facetime call or other form of video chat. They always have an excuse, their phone is broken, their country has forbidden video, etc. They even go as far as to feign disgust thinking that the other person wants to do the whole webcam sex thing. I just want verification that I am talking to who I am talking to. Mostly form letters and one sentence emails even though I had a very thorough and well-written essay. I chose not to wear anything flashy in my photos so as to avoid that kind of attention. Some women have a profile that screams out sex — provocative clothing in every picture, comments about sex veiled or explicit , etc. Best advice I can give to women is to just block a man who moves much too quickly. And create a filter so you can narrow the types of people that can contact you. Just to get a dozen responses. And maybe a date or two from that. Now THAT must be exhausting as well. Online dating just has too many issues for both genders. There were definitely those who wanted to flirt and chat rather than meet- but nothing beyond friendly and these were easily bid farewell. The difficulty for me was keeping the faith that the right person would indeed show up eventually. What helped in this regard was making sure that the rest of my life — the aspects I did have influence over — were truly fulfilling so that the search online was but a detail — albeit an important one — not the only focus. The issue is this: many profiles I est. Kinda makes good business sense when you think about it, right? Focus on target-rich environments! This world is so different than what I was raised in and grew up in.. You have men who have never been with a woman, even at 40 or 50 years old. They are and were social rejects, and so now, no matter what stage they are in life, they figure they have nothing to lose. Then you have the men who are trapped in sexless marriages. There is nothing to lose. Then you have the guys whose wives completely let themselves go, so he is simply not sexually attracted anymore. All of these guys are looking for anything they an get. Porn is only good in a pinch, when the wife is gone for two weeks. At some point, you want human interaction. Something is missing without it. So they are happy if they can get some cybersex, or an in person hook-up. The real problem lies with the fact that all men are held responsible for their actions. I mean seriously, even you Evan. As a male coach for smart, strong, successful women, I apologize on behalf of all men. I am not sure where to start with this. The ones they post on the site are enough. Actually the problem is that men are NOT held responsible for their actions. I honestly think I gave you too much credit. And of course because we are human it is difficult to forgive. But it actually frees us instead of them. The real problem lies with the fact that all men are held responsible for the actions of some men. In society, in general, this happens. We men are even trained this way. We play team sports and are taught that we are only as strong as the weakest link. We often pay for the mistake of one man. In the military, this is again true. One person screws up, we all pay. The men that do those things in online dating sites will never stop so long as the site itself allows them to get away with it. The ability is there to limit you to one initial email until the person responds, and or OKs you for unlimited contact. I could write a long detailed email, copy it to Word, and just roll it out every time I contact somebody. In fact, I am pretty sure many men who send long emails the first time do just that. Why send long personal emails when it may be a scammer, or the woman may in fact delete it before reading it because she is getting 50 emails a day. If you met somebody at a party, would you walk up and just rattle off your life history and personal details before allowing the other person to respond? So why expect that online? That may happen, but not usually right after the greeting. So here is how online dating should go. B then has a choice to send a notification of interest or an email, short or long. Since A started the ball rolling, B has the right to insist they write the first real conversational email. Little details here and there are fine. They want to get down to business very fast. Also, if the person is worth getting to know, expect that you are not the only person they are talking to. Profiles should also include some deatials that separate you from other people. For instance, are you a physically affectionate person? Not all people are, so this is something a physically affectionate person needs to know. Are you a party animal? A party animal needs to know this. People try to be generic to appeal to a broad audience which is the opposite of what you want to do. And I have been on other forums and have never seen that. But I have never seen anyone on this or any other blog insist on a long detailed first e-mail. A nice 4 or 5 line, non generic intro letter, that makes a brief reference that shows he read the profile is fine. No need to spill our your entire life story in one e-mail. I have gotten those novels in the past, and it was a turn off. And yes, I know that men have to send out tons of letters to get just a handful of responses. Another reason to keep it brief, but thoughtful. IOW, the entire male gender takes the blames for the bad ones in the bunch. If that what he means, it is a bit ironic tho, because he does like to blame the entire female population of America for the bad behavior of some the bad ones. He occasionally makes a few good points,. Choosing to approach women out of his league. Maybe have some success, then his lack of self-awareness causes foot in mouth disease and the American women jump ship. I think it is really sad that you can literally go to sites like this dedicated to women, and other sites dedicated to men, and scroll through the comment section to see a lot of people talking past each other. You seemed pretty judgmental about what he was trying to tell you and I wonder why. That is almost word for word the biggest complaint of men who have a hard time with dating. Often times people have problems that seem nonsensical to others. Pictures Physical attractiveness are the most important thing online and offline. Many time ago when online dating first started and Match. Same with speed dating in any form which also gained popularity around that time or any quirky dating events that is design to get people together. Most women I talk to seem to feel that the proportions for males are about the same. Cell phone photos make most people look worse than they actually do. As a research project, do a search for people of your gender. If its on a screen I can just delete it and if its particularly egregious, or a man contacts me several times, I would block them. I managed to date close to 50 men in a course of 20 months, had 2 starter relationships and met my lovely, live in boyfriend finally at the beginning of this year. A good profile, good photos and some flirtatious correspondence can take you from 1 date a month land to 2 dates a week in no time. Evan has some fine products for people who need help writing a profile, you can even hire a professional photographer. I had tons of dick pics and could go on a date every day of the month if I wanted to, but they were all bad dates. It is about finding quality men not quantity. I must be doing something wrong. All the first dates wanted second many of them to the point that I had to block them from my phone because they would not take no for an answer. I just found a keeper after a breakup almost six months ago. I used the search criteria on POF quite extensively for education level as I really want someone who challenges me mentally. I had been sitting on those sites getting lots of messages but I changed my approach. I saw the research that okcupid did that showed that women will find a higher quality man if the woman sends out messages women get a higher response rate than men do. My response rate was quite high. All were smart, educated, interesting, accomplished, and were my peers with owning their own homes, having jobs, having a retirement. Out of those six, this man has fallen hard and fast. He fell in love with me and asked me to be in an exclusive relationship before we had sex. And I trust it. So is it easy to find someone online? And, Singleton, I did end up with a handsome man, but beyond the criteria of wanting a man in decent physical shape who takes care of his body, as I do, looks were not the most important thing for me. The man I ended up with had posted, among other photos, pics of him at the gym that I found attractive. I post a gym photo as well. Online dating is an excellent resource for those of us who do not meet appropriate members of the opposite sex in real life. I am only on Match because I paid for a year and am too frugal to quit! But its strength—access to many men—is also its weakness. Unless they are creeps from the get go, I give most men three dates. I know well that not everyone clicks instantly on the first meeting. If you ask enough times, there will always be someone willing to hook up. Online dating creates that access much easier. In fact, because men are willing to sleep with any woman, as long as she has a pulse, and there are women desperate enough to do them thinking they will do it well enough to get a commitment, online dating will be more advantageous for men than it will be for women. I think, too, the weirdos outnumber the nice ones or the weirdos are just more aggressive. As someone mentioned earlier, the number of married men online is atrocious. Because I live in a relatively small city, I see men I know on there, MARRIED or coupled men, looking for women, some clearly lying about their status and even where they live. All of these gets quite frustrating for women and you need to just quit once in awhile and be single. In some ways, dating in my 40s is far more foolish than it was in my 20s. I am dating men in their 40s-50s and the atrocious behavior and false claims on profiles is staggering. I could care less if a man is not happy in is marriage or wants to cheat, not my problem, he picked her. And of course they will not advertise on an intimate encounter or NSA site, they would prefer to lie to a woman who would never knowingly have anything to do with them. But it doesnt matter. If youre reasonably pretty no one reads your profile anyway; its just about the pics, for them. I also have to assume that the same jerks are sending the same jerky messages to the every unsuspecting woman within a 500 mile radius. Its not me; its them. I also want to tell married men that if I can get great SINGLE men then why would I want YOU? To hear about your problems of marriage that a single FREE girl never has to worry about. That usually shuts them up LOL. Of the messages I get online both responses and those initiated by women well over 90% are phonies of some kind. Either prostitutes, con artists, scammers, sex-site operators, married women looking to cheat, teenage boys posing as women, spammers trolling for addresses, female prisoners, gold diggers, freaks, psychos, jailbait, catfishers, exhibitionists, drug pushers, and lots of just horribly damaged women of one sort or another. I loved what he wrote in his first message and on his profile, we had a fantastic first date and 19 months later 5 days ago he proposed. If its on a screen I can just delete it and if its particularly egregious, or a man contacts me several times, I would block them. Women should understand that this subset of rude or sexually explicit messages can be portrayed as the consequence of the frustration due to getting low response rates. Because being shot down online is only painful in its cumulative effect. Its a strange belief to be held, really no one owes you anything. When I was looking for a job I would send resumes and individually tailored cover letters to several employers a day. Despite my efforts, I never heard back from 90% of them. Ultimately, if you send enough individualized, flirty messages you will get a bite. If you send out a copy and paste forms, a was up? Julia is correct that no reply IS a reply in itself, and people of normal intelligence understands this. People of normal intelligence also understand that a woman needs to be interested in YOU first before they are anywhere ready to begin thinking about your dick. Which I think was pretty generous of me, since I EXPLICITLY state that I am looking for someone within 50 miles of me. Zip codes show on match. I stopped sending out the courtesy notes tho, because I started getting arguments in return. The silence says it. I wonder if these same men think they are owed an explanation after a cut and paste e-mail to a stranger on an online dating site? And then there was the guy on match. I woke up and there were all his messages lined up. His final e-mail to me was a crude sexual remark. I reported and blocked him. A month later he was still on the site. If you keep your profile active the entire 6 months and send out e-mails to at least 6 new people a month you theoretically can get another 6 months for free. But otherwise, I see no point. I too started out sending the no thanks emails, but most of the men would want to engage in arguments with me, get even meaner or ask me why I did not like them. It is better to just ignore them.

The validation hamster is not getting any for men with Game. This is pretty much the women Ive spoken to in a study group, both sexes, that meets around Oz. Now I'm not talking the elephant man, but I am right, within limits. The first couple were just a series spaced about an hour apart. And messages and compliments. Then they meet a guy they like and the guy realises he can do better and moves on to other fish. Get rid of your profile in 24 hours or I am reporting to you to the site. I do believe, however, that women who have been psychologically, emotionally or physically abused by men have to do some serious work in order to find a man who isn't abusive. Please leave me a message and I'll get back to you. You may also rind online forums where people can talk about sites they have used, but you need to find info for your country. My response rate was quite high. And NO not all men are like this at all.